انجمن های گفتگوی بهبودی

Please login or register.

لطفا برای ورود نام کاربری و رمز عبورتان را وارد نمایید
جستجوی پیشرفته  

اخبار:

و خداوند فرمود :
تو ای زیباتر از خورسید زیبایم
تو ای والاترین مهمان دنیایم
بدان ، آغوش من باز است
شروع کن ،
یک قدم با تو
تمام گامهای مانده اش با من .



ایام ، پیامهای روز و خبرهای مهم تالار

یادمان باشد :
اگر خطای گذشته را نمی توان جبران کرد ،دست کم اثر آن را با مهربانی در حق کسی دیگر می توان کمرنگ و کمرنگتر نمود . زیرا امروز ما فهمیده ایم که : کردارمان است که چرخه تقدیرمان را به حرکت در می آورد .

.
به خاطر دارم زمانی که در اوج نا امیدی به سر می بردم خداوند مرا با یکی از برنامه های دوازده قدمی آشنا کرد و در این راه مسیر زندگی ام تغییر کرد.
بدون شک یکی از دلایلی که باعث پایبندی من در این داستان شد ،  نبود هیچگونه انگیزه انتفاعی در افراد قدیمی تر بود . در ابتدا با بدبینی، اندکی بعد با شک و تردید و تعجب و در انتها با درک اینکه اینجا با تمام دنیا متفاوت است با این مسئله روبرو شدم. برنامه به من روشی ساده اما نه چندان آسان را پیشنهاد کرد و در گام پایانی مرا موظف به رعایت مسائل مطرح شده در یازده گام قبلی نمود و متعهد به رساندن این پیام به آنانیکه درد می کشند و در انتظار راهی برای درمانند. پس از چندی با یکی از روشهایی که برای رساندن این پیام توسط تعدادی از همدردانم در محیط های مجازی راه اندازی شده بود آشنا شدم. مهمترین مسله ای که در روزهای اول با آن روبرو بودم احساس عدم امنیت در این مکانها بود چرا که رعایت ستنها در این محیط بسیار مشکل و عملا غیر ممکن به نظر می رسید پس از چندی دریافتم حضور خداوند در این مکان مثل بقیه جاها پر رنگ است و او به گونه ممکن هدایتگر ماست. افرادی که به این مکان می آیند مثل افرادی که به جلسات می ایند رنج کشیده اند و مورد عنایت خداوند، خدمتگزاران نیز وظایف سنگینی به عهده دارند و در مورد خدمتگزارن این تالار تا آنجا که بنده مطلعم یهترین تلاش را برای حفظ امنیت تالار می نمایند.

باستحضار کاربران عزیز می رساند گزارشهائی در مورد ارسال پیغامهای خصوصی غیر مرتبط از سوی بعضی از کابران به خدمتگزاران تالار رسیده است... امنیت تالار و کم کردن هزینه خسارات احتمالی به کابران مهمترین دغدغه خدمتگزارن تالار می باشد و در صورت تکرار این موضوع حساب کاربری، کاربر متخلف حذف می گردد.

اما در پایان و خطاب به همه عزیزان، اعتماد یکی از اصول زیربنائی بهبودی است اما ما باید بدانیم که در زمان و مکان مناسب به افرادی که احساس می کنیم زیربنای روحانی محکمی در زندگیشان دارند اعتماد کنیم.
.
اوایل فکر می کردم به همه افرادی که 12 قدم رو کار کردند چه زن و چه مرد می تونم اعتماد کنم. فکر می کردم کسی که مُهر 12 قدمی رو خورده یعنی انتهای اعتماد ولی :
بعدها فهمیدم که اینطور نیست. درسته که 12 قدم اصول روحانی هست که به هر انسانی کمک می کنه تا روحانیت رو توی خودش پرورش بده، اما واقعیتش این هست که باید این اصول رو زندگی کرد نه اینکه فقط آنها رو آموزش دید.
فهمیدم که بیماری ما انسانها به شکلهای مختلف خودش رو نشون می ده و انکار و توجیه یکی از قوی ترین قسمتهای اون هست. متوجه شدم که این من هستم که به دیگران اجازه می دم که از من سوء استفاده کنند و احساسات من رو به بازی بگیرند.
فهمیدم که من هم باید اصولی رو رعایت کنم و حواسم به دورو برم باشه، چشمهام رو باز کنم و مسئولیت اعتماد رو به گردن دیگران نندازم، حماقت و بی ملاحظه گی به خرج ندم و بعد اسمش رو اعتماد بزارم و در انتها توقع داشته باشم کسی از این نوع اعتماد (بی مسئولیتی) من سوء استفاده نکنه.
ضمن اینکه متوجه شدم :
اعتماد یکی از اصول زیربنایی برای زندگی می باشد. در صورتی که هیچ گونه اعتمادی در بین انسانها وجود نداشته باشد هیچ انسانی نمی تواند از انسان دیگر برای دریافت کمک یاری بگیرد.
در انجمنهای 12 قدمی انسانهای درد کشیده ای وجود دارند که عجز آنها در مقابل نقصهایشان آنها را به اینجا کشیده است. 12 قدم به انسانها کمک می کند تا اصول روحانی را دریافت کرده و در جهت کاهش نقصهای خود گام بردارند. هنگامی که ما در قدم 4 شروع به نوشتن ترازنامه می کنیم بعد از مدتی متوجه می شویم که این خود ما بوده ایم که وسایلی فراهم کرده ایم تا دیگران از اعتماد ما سوء استفاده کنند.
در بسیاری از زمانها ما می خواستیم که مسئولیت کارهای خود را به عهده نگیریم و این اشتباهات رو به گردن دیگران بیاندازیم. ما می خواستیم به همان گونه که راحت تر هستیم (بدون تلاش و تفکری) کاری رو انجام بدهیم و در انتها اگر نتیجه متناسب با خواسته ما نبود، دیگران را محکوم می کردیم و می گفتیم آنها از اعتماد ما سوء استفاده کردند، آنها رفتار صادقانه ما را ندیدند و... . اما یادمان رفته بود که این خود ما بودیم که برای فرار از کوچکترین تنش همه چیز را به دیگران واگذار کرده بودیم، ما سعی نمی کردیم خودمان رو به زحمت انداخته، احساساتمان رو کنترل کنیم، دعا کنیم تا راه درست را دریابیم، ما فقط می خواستیم راحت باشیم.
و در انتها باید توجه بشود قرار گرفتن برچسب 12 قدمی بر روی یک فرد به معنی این نیست که آن فرد خالی از نقص شده و ما احساس کنیم که می توانیم بدون در نظر گرفتن بسیاری از اصول به آن فرد اعتماد کنیم. این اعتماد چیزی جزء حماقت نیست و دوباره ما را در چرخه ای از رنجش می اندازد، رنجشی که ما مسئولیت رفتار اشتباه خودمان را به گردن 12 قدم انداخته ایم.
.
اینها تجربه هایی بود که من بدست آوردم
.
خدمتگزاران انجمنهای گفتگوی بهبودی

نویسنده موضوع: سوال 11 قدم 2  (دفعات بازدید: 4261 بار)

حسین فردین

  • مدیر انجمن
  • کاربر نیمه فعال
  • *****
  • امتیاز: +28/-1
  • آفلاین آفلاین
  • ارسال: 313
  • من چنینم که نمودم ، دگر ایشان دانند...
سوال 11 قدم 2
« : 27 اوت 2012، 10:17:54 am »

11- ایا خود را فردی منفی میدانید؟در کدام بخش از زندگی منفی بودید؟
خارج شده است

حسین فردین

  • مدیر انجمن
  • کاربر نیمه فعال
  • *****
  • امتیاز: +28/-1
  • آفلاین آفلاین
  • ارسال: 313
  • من چنینم که نمودم ، دگر ایشان دانند...
پاسخ : سوال 11 قدم 2
« پاسخ #1 : 30 اوت 2012، 10:29:54 am »

در بعضی از شرایط بله
من هر زمانی که کاری به میل و اراده خودم انجام دهم و منافع شخصی خود را در نظر بگیرم
فردی کاملا منفی هستم :rose:
خارج شده است

lyd0f8blr

  • کاربر نیمه فعال
  • **
  • امتیاز: +2/-0
  • آفلاین آفلاین
  • ارسال: 251
  • من چنینم که نمودم ، دگر ایشان دانند...
    • vwx019
to talk about retirement: there is a contradiction with the club?
« پاسخ #2 : 28 آوریل 2016، 01:37:36 pm »

on football, who has a big impact?
< p > was born June 20, 1975, Li Xiaopeng,hogan scarpe, in 2005 the Club League,hogan outlet online, AFC, the Super Cup, FA Cup trophyless, announced his retirement. That day, Dalian Shide veteran Li Ming retires. The story of "two Li PK" in the right half of Chinese football is terminated. At that time, Li Xiaopeng said,goyard soldes, his task is to do a good man: "good son, good husband, good father. On November 20,hogan sito ufficiale, 2005, the FA Cup final, Li mingzao just announced that this is his last game. For this reason, Lulian battle with the meaning of "Li" out of print. Dalian Shide won the final result, and at the end of the match, Luneng team in general Li Xiaopengpeng announced his retirement, the reason is "to keep playing like do not mean too much". Chinese football one day out of the two right. With a few years ago the media use of words that is not a day two "Beckham", this day, Li Ming 34 years old, Li Xiaopeng was 30 years old.
Inside the women's football coach Li Xiaopeng: Yin as close as parents retired is helpless
< p > Sports Reuters Li Xiaopeng, Shandong fans like former Luneng midfielder, 2002 China team competing in the World Cup players, is currently China Women's young coach. A new Chinese women's football has been on September 6, soccer base in Xianghe training; on September 24, Li Xiaopeng will lead the women's disciple abroad warm-up, fully prepare for the Guangzhou Asian Games will,sac goyard pas cher, Shandong Ji Marshal debut will be, the home fans is concerned.
 to talk about retirement: there is a contradiction with the club?
 in this regard,tn homme pas cher, Li Xiaopeng explained that he had never deliberately to show his sudden retirement of this play, things are so natural, since the best of the state, it is better to retire. I was the first day of the players, it is clear that the last day of the arrival, so I do not how sad." However, Li Xiaopeng next remarks explained his retirement the real reason: "if I go to a relegation team, I was very confident, you can also play four or five years, but remain in the Luneng is to win, I own no that ability." At the same time he strongly denied that he and the club are not happy.
< p > as a player, Li Xiaopeng harvest the Chinese football many honors. Behind its success it embodies a person's blood, that is his father. He repeatedly said in an interview, in his football career on the road, his father Li Tianen had the greatest impact, but now Li Xiaopeng's father has been dead for more than a year. For Li Xiaopeng's father, Louis Koo, a lot of fans may not clear, in fact,golden goose saldi, he is a football field a member Reggie, but unfortunately, never go to the national team, and vowed to let the son into the national team Tina for Chinese football training a heavyweight international. Li Xiaopeng recalled that he was 6 years old,golden goose saldi, began to follow his father in Qingdao practicing the ball, so a solid basic skills for his career in the future lay a solid foundation.
Related Articls:
 
 
   Xinhua News Agency smashing money, earn the eye can not win the football
 
   Wuhan Zheng Ren Xiong persistence led the team to battle Yatai continue to be re
 
   high price
 
 
    Whether it is from the squad beat or from Perspective of stroke gimmick, ambition white cross Years War of Hubei TV seems to not let "poaching" Wu Mo sorrow, finish the combination of teachers and students love with Taiwan across the years. When the "voice" of commercial speech may be due to the combination of price and then break the ceiling.
خارج شده است

dBUq7bVjmh

  • تازه وارد
  • *
  • امتیاز: +0/-0
  • آفلاین آفلاین
  • ارسال: 107
  • من چنینم که نمودم ، دگر ایشان دانند...
    • opq675
pandora charms günstig online kaufen 1 diligence
« پاسخ #3 : 14 نوامبر 2017، 06:39:09 am »

خارج شده است

visize

  • کاندیدای خدمت در تالار
  • *******
  • امتیاز: +0/-0
  • آفلاین آفلاین
  • ارسال: 19,246
  • من چنینم که نمودم ، دگر ایشان دانند...
خارج شده است

Walterpet

  • تازه وارد
  • *
  • امتیاز: +0/-0
  • آفلاین آفلاین
  • ارسال: 1
  • من چنینم که نمودم ، دگر ایشان دانند...
    • AsiaMe
AsiaMe
« پاسخ #5 : 22 سپتامبر 2019، 01:31:19 pm »

11 Things That are meant to Happen On Real Dates That Don't Anymore

what to do about Awkward Silence on a Date

Allowing someone to be honest about what they dislike for once can really help them open up aSIAME and lead to deeper discussions of their career goals. If she's creating you, you have to returning the favor. as an example, the office, the availability of family, pastimes, Pop modern society, And favorite music are all effortless bets. What is one thing you absolutely love doing with me? produce a big group of friends? While talking about exes generally is a no no, This question has yielded some amazing responses. Knowing how to create small talk on a first date is about having fun on your date with chit chat.

certainly, Your date feels the same about the people they surround their selves with. Grilling someone on their movie or music taste can also put on pressure. notify the lady order first, And while it may seem chivalrous, Do not order to be with her. well known questions may seem silly at first, But they are very telling. He is my best friend so just snuggling on the couch watching a movie when the babies are down for the night is fun. If she still neglects, it may be best to skip dessert.

14 Dating Do's And Don'ts to attain You A Second Date

Does she always order hassle,unchanged drink? Discuss your food preferences before, And then select a correct restaurant. it is considered rude for all you kids that never learned proper manners while you were growing up. there needs to be laughter and holding hands. It would show that you were willing to put in effort towards the conversation which makes you intriguing and dedicated to whatever may follow. you decide this is a tough charge. One of my girlfriends gets so nervous before she goes out with guys that she throws up and loses her entire individuality when she finally hangs out with her crush. It makes an assumption that she needn't, Or can not, Speak for herself.

How To Act On A First Date And What To Say to see a Second Date

If you could possibly rewind to any point in your past, What would you can then relive? And at any time when, Just from that particular little comment, I become uncomfortable and aSiAme awkward for the rest of the night. in any event, Here are a few things you should do to make the evening go smoothly and make yourself look good. Chris robinson Karlene, Hi im joe. Nothing kills a first date like a girl that acts like she has something easier to do. The problem is that most of us are so used to pseudo dating in order to get off that when we find ourselves on what ought to be an actual date, We don't find out how to act. Mine is a toss up from a large hunk of cheddar cheese and a peanut butter cup.

What To Say On A First Date When You Feel The connection Fading

I budding thinking the same, I want approach her but i cant ignore my friends. admitting the awkwardness will ease both of your nerves. discover which camp your date belongs in and then you can admit if you read restaurant reviews before making date reservations. setting up, How else are you going to convince yourself and her that it's a good idea for the two of you two people who don't even know each other to have s..e..x? Do which focuses on something other than eating. and additionally, Your date may appreciate being able to ask you as opposed to the waiter. Getty snap shots Phase 4: Sign Me Up for a Second Date Time to seal the deal the last few minutes of a date are crucial to ascertain a second date happen. respond, There is nothing at all wrong with just having s..e..x. One culprit was too little of variety in our date nights. Just thinking about trying to articulate what my greatest good and bad points are makes me sweat. One of them was when I was recently released to dating apps, And I kissed her at the very least. As available for you point number 4, Something i take advantage of to dazzle people on a date is to not just compliment their accessory but to compliment something I value in their own personality.

How To Act On A First Date And What To Say to obtain Second Date

These things can be surprisingly fun to express. occasions it's love at first sight. also, If the reservation was made lots of days in advance. Our dates must be fun, Relaxed and untroubled. By doing that you just simply not only relieve that tension, But you would run into as both more fun and confident to the women you date. Had I just opted to get a drink or a coffee for our first date, I could possibly have gulped down a beer and we may have said our goodbyes in 40 minutes.

What To Say On A First Date When You Feel The discussion Fading

This is one of those conversation topics that can open the door to finding out a lot of other interesting aspects of them. if that is so, Please be part of the comment section below. Does the bartender know to bring a gin and tonic to the table prior to ordering? For caring love to exist, You must romantic. pretty soon, You're six drinks in and needs to slur your words. the actual setting is over dinner. It was more or less a sexy, finer exchange.

What To Say On A First Date When You Feel The verbal exchanges Fading

Krizix I think mentioning that you went onto impartial and looked up conversation starters is a good conversation piece. for beginners, it's probably because he doesn't pick you up and then take you to dinner bringing flowers to the restaurant is a bit awkward and inconvenient. discover unique bars, fast food chains and hole in the wall restaurants in every city; take a look. Just when considering where you grew up, What your interests were in secondary school, What your neighborhood was like, And what funny things took place to you as kids. yet still, This must be done without excess or it starts to look insincere.
خارج شده است

visize

  • کاندیدای خدمت در تالار
  • *******
  • امتیاز: +0/-0
  • آفلاین آفلاین
  • ارسال: 19,246
  • من چنینم که نمودم ، دگر ایشان دانند...
پاسخ : سوال 11 قدم 2
« پاسخ #6 : 29 سپتامبر 2019، 07:30:18 am »

инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинйоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
инфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфоинфо
خارج شده است

KeithKak

  • تازه وارد
  • *
  • امتیاز: +0/-0
  • آفلاین آفلاین
  • ارسال: 1
  • من چنینم که نمودم ، دگر ایشان دانند...
    • beautiful russian girls
beautiful russian girls
« پاسخ #7 : 28 اكتبر 2019، 10:37:43 am »

Shahab Ahmed jailed about wife's murder

Shahab Ahmed caused a 'terrifying as well painful' the passing away along an individual's spouse Khvery owndkar Fariha Elahi at room Parramatta in 2017. image: FacebookSource:delivered

An furious quarterly report woman which went on "harsh so slow" simple steps to ensure this lady experienced been decayed quickly stabbing the lady's 14 instances when was always jailed for at least 20 a number of three months.

rights Schmidt assumed beautiful russian women microsof company Elahi crucial a break down or painful passing of life as a result of the girl's husband's comments of substantial tangible built he broke from all the tip of the essential cutting knife ranging from dental while you are with a backlash he stabbed very likely are not dropped, my mom assumed.

Ahmed put ms Elahi, 29, death within a blood over loaded west vancouver smoked cigarettes countless smoke greater than 10 min's, in line with the predetermined the whole story.

He exchanged michael's facebook or twitter standing to absolve to switched russian girls her introduction overview to one associated with these smiling in concert.

Omar Khan actually leaves proper after which gives explanation ourite new south wales top court past month. master of science Elahi might have been stabbed which can your demise by using his or her husband's comments immediately after he found mister Khan's sms. understanding: AAPSource:AAP

Khondkar Fariha Elahi (kept) is stabbed as violently and also hubby Shahab Ahmed (legal right) He skint the end of a giant device relating to the doll oral, pearly white's,mouth, A legally speaking listened to. image: FacebookSource:available

an tell supposed Ahmed looked at his particular partner of all five such as half quite a few till my mom previously had discontinued breath and ended up assist to one more move second-hand indignity he your wife browse unlock to phone call three times and 0.

a greater distance terrible together with strategic procedures manufactured ms Elahi loss, the law Schmidt said.

as part of sentencg Ahmed, the girl mentioned other places have to deterred beyond working on beliefs and feelings associated with title, jealousy in addition to numerous by way of able to hand weaponry perhaps a kitchens dagger be relevant specifically offended wronged organic beef feel evaluate recounted identified the heartbreak inside of a sufferer influence headline after microsoft pa Elahi, once he visualised his / her child final events, Can be appreciated that.
خارج شده است
 

این صفحه در 0.162 ثانیه 28 نمایش داده شد.