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به خاطر دارم زمانی که در اوج نا امیدی به سر می بردم خداوند مرا با یکی از برنامه های دوازده قدمی آشنا کرد و در این راه مسیر زندگی ام تغییر کرد.
بدون شک یکی از دلایلی که باعث پایبندی من در این داستان شد ،  نبود هیچگونه انگیزه انتفاعی در افراد قدیمی تر بود . در ابتدا با بدبینی، اندکی بعد با شک و تردید و تعجب و در انتها با درک اینکه اینجا با تمام دنیا متفاوت است با این مسئله روبرو شدم. برنامه به من روشی ساده اما نه چندان آسان را پیشنهاد کرد و در گام پایانی مرا موظف به رعایت مسائل مطرح شده در یازده گام قبلی نمود و متعهد به رساندن این پیام به آنانیکه درد می کشند و در انتظار راهی برای درمانند. پس از چندی با یکی از روشهایی که برای رساندن این پیام توسط تعدادی از همدردانم در محیط های مجازی راه اندازی شده بود آشنا شدم. مهمترین مسله ای که در روزهای اول با آن روبرو بودم احساس عدم امنیت در این مکانها بود چرا که رعایت ستنها در این محیط بسیار مشکل و عملا غیر ممکن به نظر می رسید پس از چندی دریافتم حضور خداوند در این مکان مثل بقیه جاها پر رنگ است و او به گونه ممکن هدایتگر ماست. افرادی که به این مکان می آیند مثل افرادی که به جلسات می ایند رنج کشیده اند و مورد عنایت خداوند، خدمتگزاران نیز وظایف سنگینی به عهده دارند و در مورد خدمتگزارن این تالار تا آنجا که بنده مطلعم یهترین تلاش را برای حفظ امنیت تالار می نمایند.

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اوایل فکر می کردم به همه افرادی که 12 قدم رو کار کردند چه زن و چه مرد می تونم اعتماد کنم. فکر می کردم کسی که مُهر 12 قدمی رو خورده یعنی انتهای اعتماد ولی :
بعدها فهمیدم که اینطور نیست. درسته که 12 قدم اصول روحانی هست که به هر انسانی کمک می کنه تا روحانیت رو توی خودش پرورش بده، اما واقعیتش این هست که باید این اصول رو زندگی کرد نه اینکه فقط آنها رو آموزش دید.
فهمیدم که بیماری ما انسانها به شکلهای مختلف خودش رو نشون می ده و انکار و توجیه یکی از قوی ترین قسمتهای اون هست. متوجه شدم که این من هستم که به دیگران اجازه می دم که از من سوء استفاده کنند و احساسات من رو به بازی بگیرند.
فهمیدم که من هم باید اصولی رو رعایت کنم و حواسم به دورو برم باشه، چشمهام رو باز کنم و مسئولیت اعتماد رو به گردن دیگران نندازم، حماقت و بی ملاحظه گی به خرج ندم و بعد اسمش رو اعتماد بزارم و در انتها توقع داشته باشم کسی از این نوع اعتماد (بی مسئولیتی) من سوء استفاده نکنه.
ضمن اینکه متوجه شدم :
اعتماد یکی از اصول زیربنایی برای زندگی می باشد. در صورتی که هیچ گونه اعتمادی در بین انسانها وجود نداشته باشد هیچ انسانی نمی تواند از انسان دیگر برای دریافت کمک یاری بگیرد.
در انجمنهای 12 قدمی انسانهای درد کشیده ای وجود دارند که عجز آنها در مقابل نقصهایشان آنها را به اینجا کشیده است. 12 قدم به انسانها کمک می کند تا اصول روحانی را دریافت کرده و در جهت کاهش نقصهای خود گام بردارند. هنگامی که ما در قدم 4 شروع به نوشتن ترازنامه می کنیم بعد از مدتی متوجه می شویم که این خود ما بوده ایم که وسایلی فراهم کرده ایم تا دیگران از اعتماد ما سوء استفاده کنند.
در بسیاری از زمانها ما می خواستیم که مسئولیت کارهای خود را به عهده نگیریم و این اشتباهات رو به گردن دیگران بیاندازیم. ما می خواستیم به همان گونه که راحت تر هستیم (بدون تلاش و تفکری) کاری رو انجام بدهیم و در انتها اگر نتیجه متناسب با خواسته ما نبود، دیگران را محکوم می کردیم و می گفتیم آنها از اعتماد ما سوء استفاده کردند، آنها رفتار صادقانه ما را ندیدند و... . اما یادمان رفته بود که این خود ما بودیم که برای فرار از کوچکترین تنش همه چیز را به دیگران واگذار کرده بودیم، ما سعی نمی کردیم خودمان رو به زحمت انداخته، احساساتمان رو کنترل کنیم، دعا کنیم تا راه درست را دریابیم، ما فقط می خواستیم راحت باشیم.
و در انتها باید توجه بشود قرار گرفتن برچسب 12 قدمی بر روی یک فرد به معنی این نیست که آن فرد خالی از نقص شده و ما احساس کنیم که می توانیم بدون در نظر گرفتن بسیاری از اصول به آن فرد اعتماد کنیم. این اعتماد چیزی جزء حماقت نیست و دوباره ما را در چرخه ای از رنجش می اندازد، رنجشی که ما مسئولیت رفتار اشتباه خودمان را به گردن 12 قدم انداخته ایم.
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Wuhan for 57 companies to stop using gas to ensure
« پاسخ #7 : 12 ژوئن 2016، 04:18:40 am »

Wuhan for 57 companies to stop using gas to ensure that residents living with gas
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< p > of report from our correspondent (reporter Gong Ping) the air temperature pelter, triggering natural gas shortage, while sounding the natural gas City Red Alert yesterday, news came from the Wuhan natural gas company,hogan outlet, the company launched an emergency plan, had stopped for gas 57 enterprises, to spare no effort to ensure that the residents to use gas.
 due to the pressure drop of the pipe network,scarpe hogan outlet, the production of CNG car gas in our city is affected. Kingdream natural gas company is the city's largest natural gas supplier, yesterday, the company's marketing department responsible for Mr troops worried and said,golden goose saldi, "because the pipe pressure drop,scarpe hogan outlet, production capacity is limited, company a total of nine stations, has closed five seat,hogan rebel outlet, when the recovery is not to say. Mr. Ma said that the company is Wuhan bus main gas suppliers,nike tn pas cher, it is open four station to meet the main bus, taxi drivers difficult to row to. According to preliminary statistics, the city currently has 27 filling stations, affected by the tight supply of natural gas, nearly half have been closed. Taxi driver Lee waiting for a filling,scarpe hogan outlet, yesterday was forced to change to burn oil, coincides with the price of oil up just, the average daily to cut more than 50 yuan fuel costs.
< p > it is understood, in view of the current supply tensions, Wuhan natural gas company to ensure that residents living with gas, had stopped for the master, including 57 enterprises supply of natural gas. As to when the gas shortage is eliminated, it is necessary to look at the upstream supply situation.
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