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وقتی که من آزرده می شوم ، زمانی است که کسی ، چیزی و موقعیتی برای من قابل پذیرش نیست
و من نمی توانم آرامش پیدا کنم ، تا آن شخص ، محل چیز و موقعیت آنطوری که دقیقا باید باشد در آن زمان نیست.
هیچ چیز ، بطور حتم ، هیچ چیز در دنیای خداوند به اشتباه به وجود نیامده است و من هوشیار و بیدار نخواهم بود تا زمانی که الکلی بودنم را بپذیرم.
و من نمی توانم شادباشم تا زمانی که تمرکز پیدا کنم ، خودم و خلق و و خویم را تغییر دهم یعنی اینکه دنیاراتغییر دهم
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ایام ، پیامهای روز و خبرهای مهم تالار

یادمان باشد :
اگر خطای گذشته را نمی توان جبران کرد ،دست کم اثر آن را با مهربانی در حق کسی دیگر می توان کمرنگ و کمرنگتر نمود . زیرا امروز ما فهمیده ایم که : کردارمان است که چرخه تقدیرمان را به حرکت در می آورد .

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به خاطر دارم زمانی که در اوج نا امیدی به سر می بردم خداوند مرا با یکی از برنامه های دوازده قدمی آشنا کرد و در این راه مسیر زندگی ام تغییر کرد.
بدون شک یکی از دلایلی که باعث پایبندی من در این داستان شد ،  نبود هیچگونه انگیزه انتفاعی در افراد قدیمی تر بود . در ابتدا با بدبینی، اندکی بعد با شک و تردید و تعجب و در انتها با درک اینکه اینجا با تمام دنیا متفاوت است با این مسئله روبرو شدم. برنامه به من روشی ساده اما نه چندان آسان را پیشنهاد کرد و در گام پایانی مرا موظف به رعایت مسائل مطرح شده در یازده گام قبلی نمود و متعهد به رساندن این پیام به آنانیکه درد می کشند و در انتظار راهی برای درمانند. پس از چندی با یکی از روشهایی که برای رساندن این پیام توسط تعدادی از همدردانم در محیط های مجازی راه اندازی شده بود آشنا شدم. مهمترین مسله ای که در روزهای اول با آن روبرو بودم احساس عدم امنیت در این مکانها بود چرا که رعایت ستنها در این محیط بسیار مشکل و عملا غیر ممکن به نظر می رسید پس از چندی دریافتم حضور خداوند در این مکان مثل بقیه جاها پر رنگ است و او به گونه ممکن هدایتگر ماست. افرادی که به این مکان می آیند مثل افرادی که به جلسات می ایند رنج کشیده اند و مورد عنایت خداوند، خدمتگزاران نیز وظایف سنگینی به عهده دارند و در مورد خدمتگزارن این تالار تا آنجا که بنده مطلعم یهترین تلاش را برای حفظ امنیت تالار می نمایند.

باستحضار کاربران عزیز می رساند گزارشهائی در مورد ارسال پیغامهای خصوصی غیر مرتبط از سوی بعضی از کابران به خدمتگزاران تالار رسیده است... امنیت تالار و کم کردن هزینه خسارات احتمالی به کابران مهمترین دغدغه خدمتگزارن تالار می باشد و در صورت تکرار این موضوع حساب کاربری، کاربر متخلف حذف می گردد.

اما در پایان و خطاب به همه عزیزان، اعتماد یکی از اصول زیربنائی بهبودی است اما ما باید بدانیم که در زمان و مکان مناسب به افرادی که احساس می کنیم زیربنای روحانی محکمی در زندگیشان دارند اعتماد کنیم.
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اوایل فکر می کردم به همه افرادی که 12 قدم رو کار کردند چه زن و چه مرد می تونم اعتماد کنم. فکر می کردم کسی که مُهر 12 قدمی رو خورده یعنی انتهای اعتماد ولی :
بعدها فهمیدم که اینطور نیست. درسته که 12 قدم اصول روحانی هست که به هر انسانی کمک می کنه تا روحانیت رو توی خودش پرورش بده، اما واقعیتش این هست که باید این اصول رو زندگی کرد نه اینکه فقط آنها رو آموزش دید.
فهمیدم که بیماری ما انسانها به شکلهای مختلف خودش رو نشون می ده و انکار و توجیه یکی از قوی ترین قسمتهای اون هست. متوجه شدم که این من هستم که به دیگران اجازه می دم که از من سوء استفاده کنند و احساسات من رو به بازی بگیرند.
فهمیدم که من هم باید اصولی رو رعایت کنم و حواسم به دورو برم باشه، چشمهام رو باز کنم و مسئولیت اعتماد رو به گردن دیگران نندازم، حماقت و بی ملاحظه گی به خرج ندم و بعد اسمش رو اعتماد بزارم و در انتها توقع داشته باشم کسی از این نوع اعتماد (بی مسئولیتی) من سوء استفاده نکنه.
ضمن اینکه متوجه شدم :
اعتماد یکی از اصول زیربنایی برای زندگی می باشد. در صورتی که هیچ گونه اعتمادی در بین انسانها وجود نداشته باشد هیچ انسانی نمی تواند از انسان دیگر برای دریافت کمک یاری بگیرد.
در انجمنهای 12 قدمی انسانهای درد کشیده ای وجود دارند که عجز آنها در مقابل نقصهایشان آنها را به اینجا کشیده است. 12 قدم به انسانها کمک می کند تا اصول روحانی را دریافت کرده و در جهت کاهش نقصهای خود گام بردارند. هنگامی که ما در قدم 4 شروع به نوشتن ترازنامه می کنیم بعد از مدتی متوجه می شویم که این خود ما بوده ایم که وسایلی فراهم کرده ایم تا دیگران از اعتماد ما سوء استفاده کنند.
در بسیاری از زمانها ما می خواستیم که مسئولیت کارهای خود را به عهده نگیریم و این اشتباهات رو به گردن دیگران بیاندازیم. ما می خواستیم به همان گونه که راحت تر هستیم (بدون تلاش و تفکری) کاری رو انجام بدهیم و در انتها اگر نتیجه متناسب با خواسته ما نبود، دیگران را محکوم می کردیم و می گفتیم آنها از اعتماد ما سوء استفاده کردند، آنها رفتار صادقانه ما را ندیدند و... . اما یادمان رفته بود که این خود ما بودیم که برای فرار از کوچکترین تنش همه چیز را به دیگران واگذار کرده بودیم، ما سعی نمی کردیم خودمان رو به زحمت انداخته، احساساتمان رو کنترل کنیم، دعا کنیم تا راه درست را دریابیم، ما فقط می خواستیم راحت باشیم.
و در انتها باید توجه بشود قرار گرفتن برچسب 12 قدمی بر روی یک فرد به معنی این نیست که آن فرد خالی از نقص شده و ما احساس کنیم که می توانیم بدون در نظر گرفتن بسیاری از اصول به آن فرد اعتماد کنیم. این اعتماد چیزی جزء حماقت نیست و دوباره ما را در چرخه ای از رنجش می اندازد، رنجشی که ما مسئولیت رفتار اشتباه خودمان را به گردن 12 قدم انداخته ایم.
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اینها تجربه هایی بود که من بدست آوردم
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« : 04 اوت 2012، 08:20:28 pm »

19-چرا در قدم اول از فعل گذشته عاجز بودیم استفاده شده است؟ :rose:
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« پاسخ #1 : 08 اوت 2012، 08:39:54 pm »

من در گذشته مواد مواد مخدر مصرف میکردم و هیچ شناختی از بیماری خود نداشتم
و در گذشته به عجز و ناتوانی رسیدم و باید از گذشته خود درس بگیرم
وما از تجربه گذشتگانماه استفاده میکنیم :rose:
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پاسخ : سوال 19 قدم1
« پاسخ #2 : 09 اوت 2012، 03:14:00 pm »

چون برمیگرده به گذشته" زمان مصرف. اون موقع من اجبار به مصرف بودم اما
امروز این طور نیس .من زندگی میکنم بدون مواد مخدر. :bravo: :rose:
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Guangzhou migrant workers accumulated points to 85
« پاسخ #8 : 11 ژوئن 2016، 02:19:32 pm »

Guangzhou migrant workers accumulated points to 85 points can apply for home
New network in Guangzhou,occhiali ray ban outlet,, November 4 power (Wang Huasui) 4,hogan outlet, Guangzhou municipal government announced the implementation of migrant workers and non resident household registration system, a total of 85 points to apply for Guangzhou city accounts.
< p > points home of delineation of the five "high-voltage lines": violation of family planning policy,scarpe hogan outlet, criminal records,hogan sito ufficiale, did not apply for Guangdong Province residence permit,hogan sito ufficiale, no pay society insurance and did not sign labor contract for a year and above, the five kinds of situations where a, are not integral to the home of the qualification.
 according to the pilot approach, the work of migrant workers, migrant workers and two cities in Zengcheng,tn pas cher, Conghua,hogan roma outlet, Guangzhou, the ten city of the household registration staff, policy quantitative points to reach 85 points, can be put into the home application. The integral calculation includes three kinds of basic points, guiding points and additional points, a total of 12 indicators. Specific approval to the applicant to sort and the annual total amount of the year to determine the amount of households to determine the index.
 Guangzhou Municipal Development and Reform Commission said that every year in March 31st the total number of households through the government website integration index; every year in July 31st and November 30, two batch of publicity the applicant sort. The applicant must provide a valid proof materials as integral to the calculation of the certificate, in the location of employment of home integration system the admissibility of the window to submit materials, preliminary examination within 7 working days after the completion of the will return receipt issued to the applicant, materials will be progressively submittals,hogan outlet online, sorting; failed to through the trial materials returned.
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