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یادمان باشد :
اگر خطای گذشته را نمی توان جبران کرد ،دست کم اثر آن را با مهربانی در حق کسی دیگر می توان کمرنگ و کمرنگتر نمود . زیرا امروز ما فهمیده ایم که : کردارمان است که چرخه تقدیرمان را به حرکت در می آورد .

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به خاطر دارم زمانی که در اوج نا امیدی به سر می بردم خداوند مرا با یکی از برنامه های دوازده قدمی آشنا کرد و در این راه مسیر زندگی ام تغییر کرد.
بدون شک یکی از دلایلی که باعث پایبندی من در این داستان شد ،  نبود هیچگونه انگیزه انتفاعی در افراد قدیمی تر بود . در ابتدا با بدبینی، اندکی بعد با شک و تردید و تعجب و در انتها با درک اینکه اینجا با تمام دنیا متفاوت است با این مسئله روبرو شدم. برنامه به من روشی ساده اما نه چندان آسان را پیشنهاد کرد و در گام پایانی مرا موظف به رعایت مسائل مطرح شده در یازده گام قبلی نمود و متعهد به رساندن این پیام به آنانیکه درد می کشند و در انتظار راهی برای درمانند. پس از چندی با یکی از روشهایی که برای رساندن این پیام توسط تعدادی از همدردانم در محیط های مجازی راه اندازی شده بود آشنا شدم. مهمترین مسله ای که در روزهای اول با آن روبرو بودم احساس عدم امنیت در این مکانها بود چرا که رعایت ستنها در این محیط بسیار مشکل و عملا غیر ممکن به نظر می رسید پس از چندی دریافتم حضور خداوند در این مکان مثل بقیه جاها پر رنگ است و او به گونه ممکن هدایتگر ماست. افرادی که به این مکان می آیند مثل افرادی که به جلسات می ایند رنج کشیده اند و مورد عنایت خداوند، خدمتگزاران نیز وظایف سنگینی به عهده دارند و در مورد خدمتگزارن این تالار تا آنجا که بنده مطلعم یهترین تلاش را برای حفظ امنیت تالار می نمایند.

باستحضار کاربران عزیز می رساند گزارشهائی در مورد ارسال پیغامهای خصوصی غیر مرتبط از سوی بعضی از کابران به خدمتگزاران تالار رسیده است... امنیت تالار و کم کردن هزینه خسارات احتمالی به کابران مهمترین دغدغه خدمتگزارن تالار می باشد و در صورت تکرار این موضوع حساب کاربری، کاربر متخلف حذف می گردد.

اما در پایان و خطاب به همه عزیزان، اعتماد یکی از اصول زیربنائی بهبودی است اما ما باید بدانیم که در زمان و مکان مناسب به افرادی که احساس می کنیم زیربنای روحانی محکمی در زندگیشان دارند اعتماد کنیم.
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اوایل فکر می کردم به همه افرادی که 12 قدم رو کار کردند چه زن و چه مرد می تونم اعتماد کنم. فکر می کردم کسی که مُهر 12 قدمی رو خورده یعنی انتهای اعتماد ولی :
بعدها فهمیدم که اینطور نیست. درسته که 12 قدم اصول روحانی هست که به هر انسانی کمک می کنه تا روحانیت رو توی خودش پرورش بده، اما واقعیتش این هست که باید این اصول رو زندگی کرد نه اینکه فقط آنها رو آموزش دید.
فهمیدم که بیماری ما انسانها به شکلهای مختلف خودش رو نشون می ده و انکار و توجیه یکی از قوی ترین قسمتهای اون هست. متوجه شدم که این من هستم که به دیگران اجازه می دم که از من سوء استفاده کنند و احساسات من رو به بازی بگیرند.
فهمیدم که من هم باید اصولی رو رعایت کنم و حواسم به دورو برم باشه، چشمهام رو باز کنم و مسئولیت اعتماد رو به گردن دیگران نندازم، حماقت و بی ملاحظه گی به خرج ندم و بعد اسمش رو اعتماد بزارم و در انتها توقع داشته باشم کسی از این نوع اعتماد (بی مسئولیتی) من سوء استفاده نکنه.
ضمن اینکه متوجه شدم :
اعتماد یکی از اصول زیربنایی برای زندگی می باشد. در صورتی که هیچ گونه اعتمادی در بین انسانها وجود نداشته باشد هیچ انسانی نمی تواند از انسان دیگر برای دریافت کمک یاری بگیرد.
در انجمنهای 12 قدمی انسانهای درد کشیده ای وجود دارند که عجز آنها در مقابل نقصهایشان آنها را به اینجا کشیده است. 12 قدم به انسانها کمک می کند تا اصول روحانی را دریافت کرده و در جهت کاهش نقصهای خود گام بردارند. هنگامی که ما در قدم 4 شروع به نوشتن ترازنامه می کنیم بعد از مدتی متوجه می شویم که این خود ما بوده ایم که وسایلی فراهم کرده ایم تا دیگران از اعتماد ما سوء استفاده کنند.
در بسیاری از زمانها ما می خواستیم که مسئولیت کارهای خود را به عهده نگیریم و این اشتباهات رو به گردن دیگران بیاندازیم. ما می خواستیم به همان گونه که راحت تر هستیم (بدون تلاش و تفکری) کاری رو انجام بدهیم و در انتها اگر نتیجه متناسب با خواسته ما نبود، دیگران را محکوم می کردیم و می گفتیم آنها از اعتماد ما سوء استفاده کردند، آنها رفتار صادقانه ما را ندیدند و... . اما یادمان رفته بود که این خود ما بودیم که برای فرار از کوچکترین تنش همه چیز را به دیگران واگذار کرده بودیم، ما سعی نمی کردیم خودمان رو به زحمت انداخته، احساساتمان رو کنترل کنیم، دعا کنیم تا راه درست را دریابیم، ما فقط می خواستیم راحت باشیم.
و در انتها باید توجه بشود قرار گرفتن برچسب 12 قدمی بر روی یک فرد به معنی این نیست که آن فرد خالی از نقص شده و ما احساس کنیم که می توانیم بدون در نظر گرفتن بسیاری از اصول به آن فرد اعتماد کنیم. این اعتماد چیزی جزء حماقت نیست و دوباره ما را در چرخه ای از رنجش می اندازد، رنجشی که ما مسئولیت رفتار اشتباه خودمان را به گردن 12 قدم انداخته ایم.
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اینها تجربه هایی بود که من بدست آوردم
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« : 29 ژوئیه 2012، 12:10:57 pm »

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« پاسخ #1 : 02 اوت 2012، 10:13:53 am »

توجیح و بهانه یعنی
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< p > however "Legal Evening News" reporter recently visited found, at present the majority of Beijing restaurants all has not received the Teacher Appreciation Banquet orders and instead is between the students "graduation disband dinner".
< p > yesterday, the reporter interviewed a dozen students parents, of which about 90 percent of parents said not Daban Teacher Appreciation Banquet, "if children do well in the exam, may please celebrate with friends and relatives, but not specifically ask the teacher." One parent said.
 not only Pan Xiaoming's classmates, There are plenty of people who are not interested in teacher appreciation banquet. Reporter random interviews with 10 bit high school students found,sac guess pas cher, this year, students generally the Teacher Appreciation Banquet into "San Huofan", the teacher become graduation party "a supporting role.
 parents: please eat as a gift to send
< p > on the other side a parents said, now even appealing Teacher Appreciation Banquet teacher is not willing to take,hogan outlet, "if any media saw the teacher to do the parents of High Teacher Appreciation Banquet,hogan outlet online, give what exposure, teacher can't do. >
< p > in front of the Affiliated High School of Peking University, a parent to the reporter said "now the era, and specifically do Teacher Appreciation Banquet, as well send some gifts come affordable, teacher do not lack the meal eat."
< p > Pan Xiaoming is the monitor of a middle school high school classes in Beijing, from the beginning of this year in April, he preparatory class Teacher Appreciation Banquet, "this month in addition to prepare for college entrance examination review, other times I find hotel, talk about the price."
 Pan Xiaoming's classmates also comment on micro-blog have not resigned to playing second fiddle,tn requin pas cher, behind. Reporters noted that in addition to have the students think, the high cost of 100 yuan per capita, most of the students think to eat the meal meal completely unnecessary, "now this time also organized Teacher Appreciation Banquet, too old-fashioned."
 interrupted student: Teacher Appreciation Banquet as the farewell dinner
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